Link Wheel methods

[llyndonium]

Hi Vita

Do you have any thoughts on the Link Wheel stratgey? It seems to contradict some of the basics you have been teaching regarding randomness. However, it also seems to work for some people. I quite like the idea of being able to add weight to the higher PR sites. I assume that's how it works!

Here's a link on the SEnuke forum:

http://www.senuke.com/forum

By the way, it's a great forum to browse for useful information even if you don't have SEnuke!

Vita -- this is an affiliate link -- please moderate if it is inappropriate!

Thanks
Lyndon

[Vita_Vee]

(06-19-2009 09:54 AM)llyndonium Wrote:  Hi Vita

Do you have any thoughts on the Link Wheel stratgey? It seems to contradict some of the basics you have been teaching regarding randomness. However, it also seems to work for some people. I quite like the idea of being able to add weight to the higher PR sites. I assume that's how it works!

Here's a link on the SEnuke forum:

http://www.senuke.com/forum

By the way, it's a great forum to browse for useful information even if you don't have SEnuke!

Vita -- this is an affiliate link -- please moderate if it is inappropriate!

Thanks
Lyndon

Hi Lyndon,

Thanks for the link. I think the rule for this forum will be:

Affiliate links allowed as long as you provide value in your post.

After all, we're affiliate marketers.

This link structure is pretty old, it's just the name which is new.

It does make sense to organize your links like this because it helps to increase the PR of your network in an organized way, I mean by using this link structure you know which of your web 2.0 properties will have the high PR. And if you know this, you can then focus on placing your links to your money sites on those properties in priority.

BUT - I don't use it. I do really prefer the random interlinking for 2 reasons:

1/ I have read several months ago or maybe years ago (unfortunately I don't remember where, it was in a very smart report from someone who analyzed the benefits of the silo structures) that google was detecting very easily blog networks that were interlinked together in a cyclic way.

It's true. As a programmer myself I know that it's very easy to detect such patterns: A linking to B linking to C linking to D linking to A

Such networks have a higher risk of being disregarded and if you had such a network on your own server (same ip) a high risk of being deindexed from google (your money site and your network).

2/ With this linkwheel structure, the idea is to place links to your money pages only on some of the inner web 2.0 properties of your network, the ones who receive the links from outside linkwheels. In the end, you receive less backlinks than with the random linking "structure". One may argue that you get less links but they are higher quality (higher PR). If this was true that would be good but I think it's not the case. Why? Because with the random structure you also increase the PR of all your network over time, not only a part of your network.

That's just my opinion of course, I might be wrong. But I know that some people use this link wheel structure for promoting their product launch reviews (I have one very good marketer in mind who teaches this link wheel approach, but he doesn't call it like that) and I know that I always rank above him and get a double listing with that.

Vita Vee

[Vita_Vee]

Hi guys,

I have watched an amazing video today that explains extremely well why my random interlinking method is much more effective than the link wheel structure.

This is a video coming from a product I'm currently testing which seems much more powerful than senuke actually, I didn't think I could find such a product.

I have asked the author if I could show you the video, waiting for the reply...

Vita Vee

[llyndonium]

(06-30-2009 05:25 PM)vitavee Wrote:  Hi guys,

I have watched an amazing video today that explains extremely well why my random interlinking method is much more effective than the link wheel structure.

This is a video coming from a product I'm currently testing which seems much more powerful than senuke actually, I didn't think I could find such a product.

I have asked the author if I could show you the video, waiting for the reply...

Vita Vee

I look forward to that! But a software more powerful than SEnuke? That sounds too good to be true. Does it do everything SEnuke does?
PLEASE keep us posted. SEnuke is already starting to work for me so anything better is something to take notice of!

[Vita_Vee]

(06-30-2009 06:27 PM)llyndonium Wrote:  

(06-30-2009 05:25 PM)vitavee Wrote:  Hi guys,

I have watched an amazing video today that explains extremely well why my random interlinking method is much more effective than the link wheel structure.

This is a video coming from a product I'm currently testing which seems much more powerful than senuke actually, I didn't think I could find such a product.

I have asked the author if I could show you the video, waiting for the reply...

Vita Vee

I look forward to that! But a software more powerful than SEnuke? That sounds too good to be true. Does it do everything SEnuke does?
PLEASE keep us posted. SEnuke is already starting to work for me so anything better is something to take notice of!

That's also what I thought! But a programmer approached me with a killer product and asked me if I would like to write a review about it. This software contains the websites we find in senuke and 180+ other do follow networking sites (PR3 to PR7) to post to.

And this is just a part of the software, it does more. I'm still in the testing phase. Will keep you updated, this week I hope.

Vita Vee

[premier4]

Great Vita! I hope it's easier to use than SENuke! I posted a question on a part of this forum but can't find it now. It was asking if the Bookmark Generation Tool by Howie Schwartz was worth looking at and if anyone was using it.

Any thoughts guys?

Thanks

[SaSh]

[/quote]
That's also what I thought! But a programmer approached me with a killer product and asked me if I would like to write a review about it. This software contains the websites we find in senuke and 180+ other do follow networking sites (PR3 to PR7) to post to.

And this is just a part of the software, it does more. I'm still in the testing phase. Will keep you updated, this week I hope.

Vita Vee
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Man you've made me very curious I'm looking forward to hear more of it.
let's hope you can show us the products video very soon.

SaSh

[Vita_Vee]

Great! Kristina allowed me to publish the video on my blog, I have just sent an email about it, if you haven't received it, watch the video there:

http://www.euserreviews.com/articles/seo...-101-video

There's the link to the software I was talking about but look at the video first. It's really VERY good content.

Kristina has explained with very simple words why my method works so well. Actually I developped this method by trial and error and with a lot of testing.

Kristina explains the theory behind it and has built a software to exploit this strategy.

Now her software is NOT an automation software like senuke is. Instead it's a companion that helps you organize and manage your SEO projects very efficiently (and with about 200+ high PR and dofollow websites to post to she has the most powerful software in terms of link power).

Now I'm still going to use senuke for my product launch business because of its high degree of automation. But to rank for regular and established keywords Kristina's software is much much better partly thanks to its coverage.

The video is here:
http://www.euserreviews.com/articles/seo...-101-video

Vita Vee

[llyndonium]

OK I'm sure we'll all have a look! Perhaps a month or two on SEnuke would be a good idea first before jumping on this one? I'm still getting my head around a lot of stuff! Plus I haveen't got an extra $97 / month coming in yet

I look forward to the responses!

(07-01-2009 08:40 PM)vitavee Wrote:  Great! Kristina allowed me to publish the video on my blog, I have just sent an email about it, if you haven't received it, watch the video there:

http://www.euserreviews.com/articles/seo...-101-video

There's the link to the software I was talking about but look at the video first. It's really VERY good content.

Kristina has explained with very simple words why my method works so well. Actually I developped this method by trial and error and with a lot of testing.

Kristina explains the theory behind it and has built a software to exploit this strategy.

Now her software is NOT an automation software like senuke is. Instead it's a companion that helps you organize and manage your SEO projects very efficiently (and with about 200+ high PR and dofollow websites to post to she has the most powerful software in terms of link power).

Now I'm still going to use senuke for my product launch business because of its high degree of automation. But to rank for regular and established keywords Kristina's software is much much better partly thanks to its coverage.

The video is here:
http://www.euserreviews.com/articles/seo...-101-video

Vita Vee

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OMG! That looks really good! And how great is that voice!

Vita, would you recommend I ditch SEnuke in favour of Link Dozer? (either way you have my affiliate commission

Secondly, I assume due to the lack of info on this that it is really new. Are you able to get a group discount for us?

This could be a big rival to SEnuke in time. What do you think?

Who else on the forum would think about getting this?

[SaSh]

(07-01-2009 08:40 PM)vitavee Wrote:  But to rank for regular and established keywords Kristina's software is much much better partly thanks to its coverage.

Vita Vee

As you might now, I'm not (yet) in the IM product launches business. So, my biggest question is WHY is this software much better than SEnuke? What are the big differences between these two? Don't get me wrong, I've watched the several videos and they were all very interesting to me. But I can't see ( yet) the big advantages.

SaSh

edit:
One of the big things I noticed is that you can go wrong by building your backlinks. And this tool will help you to organize AND setup it in a way you can't go wrong.
Is that right Vita Vee?

[Lloydh6494]

Hi I would like to know if you recomend to have both this software and senuke or which would you advise as the best if you only needed one?

[llyndonium]

(07-02-2009 12:36 PM)Lloydh6494 Wrote:  Hi I would like to know if you recomend to have both this software and senuke or which would you advise as the best if you only needed one?

This is really new. There's no history of the product so comparisons are non existant. I have actually signed up and from what I've seen it does a lot of what SEnuke does. I think it does it in a much more systematic way though.

It seems to do away with the need for Content Boss or similar. There is a little more work to do though with synonyms and spinning.

It is able to add unique content to hundreds of sites and claims to do this in a much more 'natural' way to avoid being banned.

There are a couple of 'secret' technologies used in the software that apparently is not being used anywhere else on the internet and claims to be absolutely unique in this respect. These technologies give a true advantage over the competition and allow you to even compete on the high competition keywords.

The videos are first class! They are very clearly presented and once again are very structured and easy to follow.

The communiaction with Kristina Saric the creator has been great also. I had a few technical problems setting the software up (it is new) and she has personally helped me to get things up and running. Real 'one to one' customer service.

This could either be a groundbreaking system or it could just limp along. Who knows? All I know is that if we get in early, we could be part of a very important revolution in the SEO world!

Have a look at the videos on the home page and see for youself! I'll try and keep you updated on how it works after I've gone through all the training -- there's LOTS of it!

Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/linkdozer

Lyndon

[SaSh]

What the heck...I just subscribed to it and see for my self whether it's that strong and powerful or not.
Keep you guys informed ;-)

SaSh

[llyndonium]

(07-02-2009 01:54 PM)SaSh Wrote:  What the heck...I just subscribed to it and see for my self whether it's that strong and powerful or not.
Keep you guys informed ;-)

SaSh

Hi Sash

I think Vita needs to set up another private forum...

[Vita_Vee]

A quick message about the question: Senuke OR LinkDozer?

Both softwares are very good but as I see them they are not really competing one against the other and I know that for some keywords I will prefer senuke over link dozer while I will use link dozer for other keywords.

When it comes to automation senuke is the real winner: it allows to post your articles very quickly on several high ranking web 2 properties and to bookmark them all and to submit your rss feeds as well as pinging all these pages. It does all of this faster than anything else I have seen until now.

Link Dozer is not as automated as senuke but it's not its goal.
This software is the most complete on the planet in terms of high PR dofollow websites we can send our articles to. But it's NOT automated. It's semi automated meaning that there is more work involved than with Senuke.

With my SEO strategy (which is the one used by Kristina too, the programmer of link dozer) it allows to get high rankings for very competitive keywords. I'm talking about keywords for which senuke would be ineffective.

For the money making strategy I'm exposing in my From 0 To profits video series I'm keeping senuke because I need a fast solution to get high rankings very quickly.

For more established keywords and more competitive markets Link Dozer is the software to use.

And in terms of price:

Link Dozer costs $97
Senuke costs $127

If you have not watched the video yet where Kristina explains in very simple words how to outrank any website then watch it now on this other forum thread: LINK DOZER

[Vita_Vee]

(07-02-2009 09:21 AM)SaSh Wrote:  As you might now, I'm not (yet) in the IM product launches business. So, my biggest question is WHY is this software much better than SEnuke? What are the big differences between these two? Don't get me wrong, I've watched the several videos and they were all very interesting to me. But I can't see ( yet) the big advantages.

SaSh

edit:
One of the big things I noticed is that you can go wrong by building your backlinks. And this tool will help you to organize AND setup it in a way you can't go wrong.
Is that right Vita Vee?

It's better because it helps you to create a ton of these little communities Kristina talked about in her video. Senuke can't do this because it's too limited in terms of web 2 properties.

Thanks to these little but numerous communities you can get high rankings for more competitive terms.

But it requires more work because it's much less automated than senuke for the moment.

Vita Vee

[llyndonium]

Remember that SEnuke started life as a very different product than what it is now. Since its launch, it has has countless updates, automating a lot of the modules.

Just think where Link Dozer could be in 6 months or a year...

[Lloydh6494]

(07-02-2009 05:52 PM)vitavee Wrote:  

(07-02-2009 09:21 AM)SaSh Wrote:  As you might now, I'm not (yet) in the IM product launches business. So, my biggest question is WHY is this software much better than SEnuke? What are the big differences between these two? Don't get me wrong, I've watched the several videos and they were all very interesting to me. But I can't see ( yet) the big advantages.

SaSh

edit:
One of the big things I noticed is that you can go wrong by building your backlinks. And this tool will help you to organize AND setup it in a way you can't go wrong.
Is that right Vita Vee?

It's better because it helps you to create a ton of these little communities Kristina talked about in her video. Senuke can't do this because it's too limited in terms of web 2 properties.

Thanks to these little but numerous communities you can get high rankings for more competitive terms.

But it requires more work because it's much less automated than senuke for the moment.

Vita Vee

How do you create these comunities can you do it within the Link Dozer or do you have to create a heap of Blogs first?

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(07-02-2009 05:48 PM)vitavee Wrote:  A quick message about the question: Senuke OR LinkDozer?

Both softwares are very good but as I see them they are not really competing one against the other and I know that for some keywords I will prefer senuke over link dozer while I will use link dozer for other keywords.

When it comes to automation senuke is the real winner: it allows to post your articles very quickly on several high ranking web 2 properties and to bookmark them all and to submit your rss feeds as well as pinging all these pages. It does all of this faster than anything else I have seen until now.

Link Dozer is not as automated as senuke but it's not its goal.
This software is the most complete on the planet in terms of high PR dofollow websites we can send our articles to. But it's NOT automated. It's semi automated meaning that there is more work involved than with Senuke.

With my SEO strategy (which is the one used by Kristina too, the programmer of link dozer) it allows to get high rankings for very competitive keywords. I'm talking about keywords for which senuke would be ineffective.

For the money making strategy I'm exposing in my From 0 To profits video series I'm keeping senuke because I need a fast solution to get high rankings very quickly.

For more established keywords and more competitive markets Link Dozer is the software to use.

And in terms of price:

Link Dozer costs $97
Senuke costs $127 (with the discount I'm offering it's $97 though... see my signature)

If you have not watched the video yet where Kristina explains in very simple words how to outrank any website then

<b><a href="http://www.euserreviews.com/articles/seo/link-building/seo-101-video" target="_blank">CLICK HERE To Watch it Now on My Blog</a></b>.

Hi Vita
How do we go about ordering senuke and getting your discount?
Thanks

[llyndonium]

(07-03-2009 12:28 AM)Lloydh6494 Wrote:  

(07-02-2009 05:52 PM)vitavee Wrote:  

(07-02-2009 09:21 AM)SaSh Wrote:  As you might now, I'm not (yet) in the IM product launches business. So, my biggest question is WHY is this software much better than SEnuke? What are the big differences between these two? Don't get me wrong, I've watched the several videos and they were all very interesting to me. But I can't see ( yet) the big advantages.

SaSh

edit:
One of the big things I noticed is that you can go wrong by building your backlinks. And this tool will help you to organize AND setup it in a way you can't go wrong.
Is that right Vita Vee?

It's better because it helps you to create a ton of these little communities Kristina talked about in her video. Senuke can't do this because it's too limited in terms of web 2 properties.

Thanks to these little but numerous communities you can get high rankings for more competitive terms.

But it requires more work because it's much less automated than senuke for the moment.

Vita Vee

How do you create these comunities can you do it within the Link Dozer or do you have to create a heap of Blogs first?

It's all part of the software. Link Dozer does it all for you! Watch the videos on this page - Link Dozer

[srobertson]

The thing with senuke is that its great for launches, but you have to make sure you get the timing right!! If you launch too soon and the bots come back around for the second time, and see your senuke linking structure, you will get sandboxed before the launch or on the day of the launch. This has happened to me twice.

With Link Dozer you will not be doing too much "google dancing" and you will be perceived more as an authority site. Much more staying power.
So I will be adapting the linking structure of Link Dozer, but unfortunately its not great for IM product launches as it takes more time to set up your linking community.

So it depends on whether your strategy is "sniper Launches" or more long term authority sites.

I am also testing the link dozer so i will add my two cents as well.