Web 2.0 more powerful THAN Money SIte

[ctwain]

Hi Folks, I need the pros to jump in on this one.

I've been using SENuke and doing tiered style link wheels. I just noticed today that my Web 2.0 Property is ranking better than my money site on my keyword!

Also, now it's been about a week and a half, of using SENuke still no back links are being registered on Market Samurai. Anyone know why? I've been updating new articles everyday to cerate new backlinks to the money site.

Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

[Jack]

Nothing too strange about that. The web 2 sites can be very powerful. But I would definitely avoid making a web 2 site your main money site though. You have little control and no assurance that it will even be there tomorrow.

For backlinks showing in any tool. Don't worry about it, they are there. No tool shows them all. Just keep doing the promoting like you are doing and watch your ranking.

Jack

[ctwain]

Thanks alot Jack! I think you misunderstood me a little. I did not make the web 2.0 site my money site, it's a property and with spun articles promoting the money site, but it ranked better than the real money site. It just threw me off today.

Additionally I'd like to sign up for the ultra spinnable article however, I don't think there's one for my niche.

[Jack]

I didn't think you had made it your money site. But I did think that perhaps it could have gone through your mind to make it your money site considering that they can be more powerful.

You can get the Ultra Spinnable Articles in the IM niche and use them for backlinks for any niche. Because everything on the internet is promoted via internet marketing, it's very easy to make a sentence that contains your niche keyword. Just make a sentence relating to how you could use whatever IM topic to promote "YOUR NICHE KEYWORD" using that as anchor text with your link. Lots of people are doing it very successfully.

In reality you could even use any random niche article to promote any other niche using a similar method. Of course this requires much more creativity but is certainly doable.

Jack

[chuawenching]

just to confirm... what is a money site and a web 2.0 property? my bet is money site is my own site and web 2.0 is like squidoo lenses? am i right, partain?

[Jack]

Your money site is any site that you depend on to provide you income. It could be a web 2 site or on a domain that you own.

[livonian]

Never optimize web 2.0 property exactly for the same keyword as your money site. Use related terms which you are not trying to rank for.
If your rankings are good you don't have to worry about your backlinks showing up in some tools or not. If your rankings aren't that good, then like Jack said the tools don't show all of your backlinks.
What you can then do is take some urls from SENuke url manager and google them, if nothing shows up the page has not been indexed and so the backlink(s) on that page don't count. If that happens with many of your backlink pages you have got a problem...I have read that many SEnuke users have problems indexing their backlinks...
There are some tools which should help backlinks getting indexed faster, many of them are being sold on WF, but I haven't tried them myself.
"From 0 To Profits" students know how to deal with this problem, but I can't share the information here.

As Jack said, many people are successfully using IM USA-s to promote other niches, but it doesn't work on some sites like Hubpages for example, where you will soon receive an email about your hub being unpublished and overly promotional because of the links which are unrelated to your hub's content.

[ctwain]

(01-31-2011 03:34 AM)livonian Wrote:  What you can then do is take some urls from SENuke url manager and google them, if nothing shows up the page has not been indexed and so the backlink(s) on that page don't count. If that happens with many of your backlink pages you have got a problem...I have read that many SEnuke users have problems indexing their backlinks...

Livonian, You hit the nail on it's head. This is the exact problem I'm running into right now. I have been using SENuke over and over and over again, everyday for a week and a half and have 1 backlink indexed by Yahoo for some odd reason and 0 indexed by google. I need some serious advice.

And thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[Jack]

I never google my senuke urls or worry about how many backlinks yahoo is showing. It would only drive me nuts and give me problems if I were to do that. As I said, just worry about building the links and watching your rankings. Chasing down who has what indexed or what someone is showing for your backlink count will only cause you frustration and waste your time.

[ctwain]

Got Cha Jack. You are right, worrying about it will just cause someone to lose their insanity, or frustrate them. Haha.. Clearly happening to me a little. However, I am curious, if for you for instance, if you are using SENuke, and 90% of all your web.20 properties are not showing up when you paste them into the google search bar, isn't that burning up time and effort?

What would you do to make your time and effort count more? I guess what I'm really asking is how do I make every nuking sessions really count? Because if we just nuke away and hope google will find it, is like praying to the Google Gods and hoping they will hear us, and I know the successful individuals on this forum, don't just count on pray?

[Jack]

I know it's working because I look at my rankings. That's all. That and making sure that I'm using the proper senuke techniques that I've learned from Vita in F0TP.

But your ranking is dependent on so many other things too. Comepetition level is a large factor. On page seo is bigger than some might argue.

But like I said, if you use the proper methods, don't worry about it, senuke will work fantastic.

[Nicholas Spear]

I noted the point about web 2.0 not being stable - but would i be right to think that using the likes of weebly and squidoo to make several or more links is ok providing i ignore the stablility thing and just set and forget the web 2.0 link - I make the weebly links and move on - or should i keep making the links -

e,g on weebly i make a link site (for want of a better term) say i make 10 of these - is that enough or should i keep doing - each with good content and related and interlinked and pointing back to the money site and thats it

or do i keep putting them up here and other web 2.0 sites

Sorry but its the neebie curiosity in me and i am not sure how the whole thing works yet. I am getting better reading all the content and guides here - but it takes time and these questions keep popping into my head.