Making Money Online

[Beegee]

I'm earning a little money from the internet. I do what to step up the game and earn more. The problem is...I don't know where to start...

[Vita_Vee]

(06-17-2009 07:17 PM)Beegee Wrote:  I'm earning a little money from the internet. I do what to step up the game and earn more. The problem is...I don't know where to start...

Hi Beegee,

What is your current business model?

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[lyka]

(06-17-2009 07:59 PM)vitavee Wrote:  

(06-17-2009 07:17 PM)Beegee Wrote:  I'm earning a little money from the internet. I do what to step up the game and earn more. The problem is...I don't know where to start...

Hi Beegee,

What is your current business model?

Vita Vee

i have the same dilemma with beegee...what do you mean by business model?

[Vita_Vee]

(06-19-2009 05:02 AM)lyka Wrote:  

(06-17-2009 07:59 PM)vitavee Wrote:  

(06-17-2009 07:17 PM)Beegee Wrote:  I'm earning a little money from the internet. I do what to step up the game and earn more. The problem is...I don't know where to start...

Hi Beegee,

What is your current business model?

Vita Vee

i have the same dilemma with beegee...what do you mean by business model?

I mean, what is the method you're currently using to earn money online? First are you working as an affiliate or as a product creator?

Then are you focusing your efforts on PPC for example? or article marketing?

Are you promoting products from different niches or are you involved in one single niche? Do you promote digital products or physical products, or a combination of both?

And how do you promote these products? Do you write reviews? Or do you try to hard sell them?

For example my main business model is to review products before they are released to the general public. I use SEO to get top rankings for launch day and once launch day comes I get tons of traffic interested in purchasing these products aka "easy sales".

This is what I mean by "what is your business model".

If you don't have one model yet, you should start to determine one and then focus on it and forget the other so called "opportunities" out there.

In my private lessons, I show you a detailed plan of my business model in a step by step video format.

Vita Vee

[st_hart]

The low earning is my problem also. Thanks Vita for the easy to understand explanation.
Currently I am running a website offering free ebooks to download (the link is in my sign). I rely its income mainly on Adsense (and Amazon affiliate), as most ebooks there can be downloaded for free; they don't even need to register. So I guess the challenges are increasing traffic and the CTR (which is quite low currently, about 0.56%).
With the business model, what do you think I can do to raise my income? What are possible ways to monetize the website other than placing Adsense ads? Thanks

[2Arichlife]

HI
My name is mark bajona

This might work if given a try to get targeted buyers. Try going to google adwords with a landing page and an optin button first and run a your ad for lets say 4 or 5 days with a budget of about 20 bucks a day and just tell people you are in the works of finishing off some product that you are going to launch and if they are interested you have their solution which is comming real soon. This way you will get optins to your offer that are targeted so when you go to sell the product you just email back those optins and you should have a hungry crowd for your product. You need to research your keywords first with something like googles external keyword tool. Anyways i'm no pro but it might bring you targeted buyers instead of tire kickers that use up your google adwords money.

[Vita_Vee]

(06-19-2009 05:03 PM)st_hart Wrote:  The low earning is my problem also. Thanks Vita for the easy to understand explanation.
Currently I am running a website offering free ebooks to download (the link is in my sign). I rely its income mainly on Adsense (and Amazon affiliate), as most ebooks there can be downloaded for free; they don't even need to register. So I guess the challenges are increasing traffic and the CTR (which is quite low currently, about 0.56%).
With the business model, what do you think I can do to raise my income? What are possible ways to monetize the website other than placing Adsense ads? Thanks

1st thing I would concentrate on building a list. Since your visitors are interested in downloading free ebooks, you could offer them a great ebook package in exchange of their email. Then you could send them some promotion emails related to what they downloaded.

Then since you're mainly earning money through adsense and since your CTR is actually very low you should try to increase your CTR before trying to increase your traffic.

On one of my sites in the past, I experienced CTRs as high as 50% with hundreds of daily visitors. I was making more than $100 a day in adsense re enue. I was split testing different site templates to find the one with the best CTR.

Then when you're satisfied with your CTR work on the traffic part.

Vita Vee

[Vita_Vee]

(06-19-2009 06:08 PM)2Arichlife Wrote:  HI
My name is mark bajona

This might work if given a try to get targeted buyers. Try going to google adwords with a landing page and an optin button first and run a your ad for lets say 4 or 5 days with a budget of about 20 bucks a day and just tell people you are in the works of finishing off some product that you are going to launch and if they are interested you have their solution which is comming real soon. This way you will get optins to your offer that are targeted so when you go to sell the product you just email back those optins and you should have a hungry crowd for your product. You need to research your keywords first with something like googles external keyword tool. Anyways i'm no pro but it might bring you targeted buyers instead of tire kickers that use up your google adwords money.

Hi Mark,

This could work but you have to be really working on a product for that.

[browsaweb]

Yes, I think if you are getting people on the list under pretense that you are working on something then you should work on something and give them what they expect...

[st_hart]

(06-19-2009 07:39 PM)vitavee Wrote:  1st thing I would concentrate on building a list. Since your visitors are interested in downloading free ebooks, you could offer them a great ebook package in exchange of their email. Then you could send them some promotion emails related to what they downloaded.

Then since you're mainly earning money through adsense and since your CTR is actually very low you should try to increase your CTR before trying to increase your traffic.

On one of my sites in the past, I experienced CTRs as high as 50% with hundreds of daily visitors. I was making more than $100 a day in adsense re enue. I was split testing different site templates to find the one with the best CTR.

Then when you're satisfied with your CTR work on the traffic part.

Vita Vee

Thanks Vita for the useful advice. I will consider to enable the membership system. Before I applied it but I got feedback from some forums that in the beginning asking people to register before eligible to download ebooks maybe not a good idea. So I disable it.
And, wow, 50% is really great and profitable! Is it OK for Google? I mean, I hear that the "natural" CTR is 1% to 5%. More than that will be frown upon by Google. Anyway, so I have to work on the CTR first before increasing the traffic. (It's new and important also, because I currently working opposite. I just concentrate on the traffic and ignore the CTR).

[Vita_Vee]

(06-20-2009 08:20 AM)st_hart Wrote:  Thanks Vita for the useful advice. I will consider to enable the membership system. Before I applied it but I got feedback from some forums that in the beginning asking people to register before eligible to download ebooks maybe not a good idea. So I disable it.
And, wow, 50% is really great and profitable! Is it OK for Google? I mean, I hear that the "natural" CTR is 1% to 5%. More than that will be frown upon by Google. Anyway, so I have to work on the CTR first before increasing the traffic. (It's new and important also, because I currently working opposite. I just concentrate on the traffic and ignore the CTR).

About enabling the membership system, it really depends on what your objective is. If you plan to make the majority of your money through adsense, then don't enable it but add an optin box on all your pages. If you plan to make money from affiliate marketing, then don't hesitate to enable it.

About the CTR, I'm not in the adsense game anymore but at the time it was not a problem to get these high CTRs. There is now the google smart pricing system, maybe having such a high CTR would lower your EPC, I don't really know for sure. But you can without any doubt increase it to 5% minimum like suggested in other places.

That would make you almost 10 times more money than what you get right now with the same traffic volume.

Vita Vee

[st_hart]

Sorry, you are right. The average 'tolerable' CTR is 5% to 15%. Thanks.

[Vita_Vee]

(06-20-2009 01:42 PM)st_hart Wrote:  Sorry, you are right. The average 'tolerable' CTR is 5% to 15%. Thanks.

You're welcome. What you have to do to increase your CTR is to blend your ads into the content of the page. They must look like regular links and not ads.

Another thing to do, which is the opposite of what I wrote above is to place your ads inside catchy graphic containers like a post it note for example:



Or you could use such hole graphics with your adsense ads inside:



You need to grab the attention of your visitor and direct his eyes to your ads.
This is how you can get high CTRs.

Vita Vee

[secularllc]

Adsense is ok..... but do not rely on it for income. Look into gathering as much FREE content as you possibly can that is relative to what you are selling. Then people will see you as a value. Join an affiliate program through clickbank or commission junction and promote a product that will compliment your free stuff. Hence sales. People trust you. You need to create urgency that the product you sell will be limited, or gone ,or no longer available after xyz time. So grab a product use the value to build first. The most important issue here is do not do not do not sell ANYTHING that is not you. Ask do I enjoy this stuff? Would the people I am marketing to be people I would or would NOT want to know where I live, see me, approach me, etc. That makes a HUGE difference from your sub conscience up. Find what you ENJOY and market to that crowd. Think where you want to be from that stand point. Speak to them fro there.

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By the way ...do you already have an auto responder? The best one out there that has a install wizard for each email ( makes it simple to use) is aweber. Go here http://www.aweber.com

[Vita_Vee]

I totally agree. Affiliate marketing or product creation is much more profitable than adsense and requires to maintain less websites at the same time.

But it's not for everyone, some people don't like to create review pages, product comparisons etc...

In such a case, adsense is a quick change maker. You can hardly get rich with adsense nowadays, except if you have a site with huge traffic (tens of thousands of visitors a day).

And with such a website you would make a killing with your own product or affiliate marketing anyway

Vita Vee

[st_hart]

(06-21-2009 05:29 PM)vitavee Wrote:  You're welcome. What you have to do to increase your CTR is to blend your ads into the content of the page. They must look like regular links and not ads.

Another thing to do, which is the opposite of what I wrote above is to place your ads inside catchy graphic containers like a post it note for example:

Or you could use such hole graphics with your adsense ads inside:

You need to grab the attention of your visitor and direct his eyes to your ads.
This is how you can get high CTRs.

Vita Vee

That's fantastic! I have been blending the ads into the content in single pages. And, yeah, most clicks came from the ads there. But I never try the second trick which looks interesting. I should try it. Thanks for sharing it

[Vita_Vee]

(06-27-2009 09:23 AM)st_hart Wrote:  That's fantastic! I have been blending the ads into the content in single pages. And, yeah, most clicks came from the ads there. But I never try the second trick which looks interesting. I should try it. Thanks for sharing it

You're welcome, keep us updated on your CTR increase

[anna]

Anyone can make money on the internet, just don't think you can push a button and money comes out. Having so many different methods and information available on how to generate an income online doesn't make it easy. A good place for beginners to start is the following. First go and find an affiliate site like Click Bank. Go and find an internet marketing guru who has released a lot of products. You join his email list and when he plans to launch a new product, normally they send out emails about 2 weeks before a product launch so affiliates can get ready. You target new products like this because when it is released people will be searching for the product name. Effectively you are setting up shop just before the rush of traffic comes. So, you get in early, get your websites all setup and then you will get traffic, traffic that is from people who typically are interested and want to purchase. Doing this kind of setup costs about $10 at the most per product you want to target or you can do it for free, I wouldn't suggest not using your own domain name. If you are just starting out something like this is very useful and I strongly suggest using it.

[Vita_Vee]

(07-07-2009 07:57 AM)anna Wrote:  Anyone can make money on the internet, just don't think you can push a button and money comes out. Having so many different methods and information available on how to generate an income online doesn't make it easy. A good place for beginners to start is the following. First go and find an affiliate site like Click Bank. Go and find an internet marketing guru who has released a lot of products. You join his email list and when he plans to launch a new product, normally they send out emails about 2 weeks before a product launch so affiliates can get ready. You target new products like this because when it is released people will be searching for the product name. Effectively you are setting up shop just before the rush of traffic comes. So, you get in early, get your websites all setup and then you will get traffic, traffic that is from people who typically are interested and want to purchase. Doing this kind of setup costs about $10 at the most per product you want to target or you can do it for free, I wouldn't suggest not using your own domain name. If you are just starting out something like this is very useful and I strongly suggest using it.

Yeah that is a great method of making money. It works very well when you know how to play the game.

[boon]

Hello everyone, Im a newbie and Im excited to learn new things here...