Is this the correct SEO strategy?

[snikaclick]

Hi everyone!
First off, I want to thank Vita Vee yet again since he's always answering any questions I ask on this forum. I've gained a lot of insights and help from this forum from Vita Vee and you other members here; thank you very much.

I feel that I've done quite well with affiliate marketing and the last step I've got left is understanding promotion. I've focused mainly on SEO.

Vita Vee responded to a question I asked about doing what SENuke does manually. It's in the "article spinner" thread and I wanted to ask some follow up questions but since they were Off Topic I decided to post a new thread.

Here is my question in a concise format:

Is this the proper order to do things? (I've written questions in parentheses)

This is done for each of your keywords you're targeting:

1. Submit your spun article to article directories (should I use the article I wrote for my main website and spin it? Should the accounts I create on the article directories be different or can I use 1 name on all the accounts? How many spun articles should I post? Can I post them all on the same day?).

2. Submit your spun article to AMA,MAN or freetrafficsystems

(should I do 3. on the same day as I did 2.? or should I wait some day(s)?)

3. Post your spun article (can I use the same article I used in 1. and 2. but spun of course?) to your social networks i.e. wordpress.com, blogger, vox etc. (can the accounts I make on all the social networks use the same name? can they be created on the same day? can they be created from the same computer?)

(Should my social networks be interlinked as in a link wheel? How do I connect them? Do I just use a <a href, from the blog post on wordress.com to blogger, from blogger to vox, from vox to another network and so on or is there another way to interlink these networks? How should I link to my own main website, just with a simple <a href in each post? I gather I should vary the anchor text?)

4. Make an RSS feed and include all the URLs of the sites you've made from article directories, MAN blog submissions and social network blog posts and submit it to article directories. (or should I use a RSS feed made from each social network and MAN blog?) I don't really understand which RSS feed to submit

5. Social bookmark all of these URLS i.e article directories, MAN blogs, social network blog posts and RSS feeds with socialbookmarker.com after you've created accounts on all the social bookmark sites. (should these be the URLs of the actual posted articles or just the profiles in the case of social networks? Should I bookmark them all at once? Should I do it from the same computer? Should I create the accounts on the same day with the same usernames on the same computer?)

6. Ping all the sites. The urls of the article directories sites, if the articles are up, the blog sites, articles submitted with AMA or MAN or freetrafficsystems ,the social networks sites, the RSS feed and the social bookmarks. (should these be the URLs of the actual posted articles or just the profiles in the case of social networks? Should I ping them all at once? Should I do it from the same computer?

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Ok as you see I have quite a few questions I have stumbled upon when I've tried to form my strategy. I feel like I'm stumbling in the dark on this. If no one feels to answer this question, I'd be most grateful for a product recommendation.

Thank you very much for all your help, I get the feeling that this is the last step I need to understand to start making money from the blog.

Snikaclick

[livonian]

No need to go buy any product. Members here have got you covered. I try to explain and if I make a mistake I am sure others will come and correct me, starting with VV of course.

(02-21-2010 09:32 PM)snikaclick Wrote:  1. Submit your spun article to article directories (should I use the article I wrote for my main website and spin it? Should the accounts I create on the article directories be different or can I use 1 name on all the accounts? How many spun articles should I post? Can I post them all on the same day?).

I don't submit to article directories cause their approval takes time. I believe Vita doesn't submit to them either for the same reason. But if you take this extra step it can only do you good, cause we need as much different backlinks as possible. The more you cover your tracks the better, but you can get away by using 1 name for all the accounts. One article per day to each directory is fine.

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Quote:Submit your spun article to AMA,MAN or freetrafficsystems

(should I do 3. on the same day as I did 2.? or should I wait some day(s)?)

Vita usually posts one ultra-spin article each day, but he submits to different categories. For example if your article is about back links, you would submit it to seo, site promotion, internet marketing general categories etc. If you mean 3 on the same day I am not sure do you think 3 articles on the same day or do you mean 3 blog networks you have mentioned. If you mean different articles, then I think three is ok, cause I have done it and nothing bad has happened, and these networks syndicate their articles over time, so it looks natural even if you submit three a day as long as you keep your content fresh. If you mean posting to three different networks on the same day, then AMA and MAN is actually the same network, so no point in submitting both of them. And social networks sites are more powerful than these blogs, cause their home pages have already high page rank and some of the high pr passes on to your pages. The blog networks are used to diversify the type of back links linking to your site.

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Quote:Post your spun article (can I use the same article I used in 1. and 2. but spun of course?) to your social networks i.e. wordpress.com, blogger, vox etc. (can the accounts I make on all the social networks use the same name? can they be created on the same day? can they be created from the same computer?)

If your article is well spun then yes you can use the same article. If you are subscribed to Vita's ulta-spinnable articles you are safe to go. Again accounts can use the same username, I usually use the same name, but using different names would be safer. The accounts created on different sites can be made on the same day. And they can be made from the same computer. If you want to make more than one account on each site you can still use the same computer, but you have to delete your cookies. Use a software like Ccleaner. And you need to hide your ip address behind proxy or switch the ip address if this is something you can do.

Quote:(Should my social networks be interlinked as in a link wheel? How do I connect them? Do I just use a <a href, from the blog post on wordress.com to blogger, from blogger to vox, from vox to another network and so on or is there another way to interlink these networks? How should I link to my own main website, just with a simple <a href in each post? I gather I should vary the anchor text?)

You should interlink them totally randomly or as an open linkwheel, so if your every new site links to your last one, don't close the wheel by linking your last property to your first one.

Example: a---->b----->c----->D then don't link the d back to a. All in all linking should look natural. If you close the wheel it's a perfect ring, but in real world nothing is perfect. Linking must seem chaotic then it seems natural. Yes just a simple html link and vary the anchor text. In some sites like wordpress they have buttons to insert links, so you should use these to insert links. Or if you still want to use <a href etc then you should switch to html mode (These sites have two options to insert your content-what you see is what you get and html). If you are targeting product names then about 80% of you anchor text would be the exact product name and other 20% different variations people might use to search information...product name review, product name bonus etc.

Quote:4. Make an RSS feed and include all the URLs of the sites you've made from article directories, MAN blog submissions and social network blog posts and submit it to article directories. (or should I use a RSS feed made from each social network and MAN blog?) I don't really understand which RSS feed to submit

You don't make the rss feeds, you take them from the sites. You take RSS feed from article directories, social networks and social bookmark sites if they have any and submit these feeds to RSS aggregators. You don't take MAN blogs' feeds. Even if you wanted to do that it would be hard to find them all. And there's no point.

Quote:5. Social bookmark all of these URLS i.e article directories, MAN blogs, social network blog posts and RSS feeds with socialbookmarker.com after you've created accounts on all the social bookmark sites. (should these be the URLs of the actual posted articles or just the profiles in the case of social networks? Should I bookmark them all at once? Should I do it from the same computer? Should I create the accounts on the same day with the same usernames on the same computer?)

Bookmark social network properties and article directories. Bookmark the actual urls where your posts are. Yes bookmark them all at once. Each property(article directory post or social network post) gets one social bookmark. Don't bookmark all your pages on all your social bookmarking accounts. You don't bookmark your rss feeds or MAN blogs. You can do it on the same computer with same usernames but over time you will have many networks, then use different social bookmarking accounts to bookmark your properties. Again follow the instructions about cookies and ip address given above.

Quote:6. Ping all the sites. The urls of the article directories sites, if the articles are up, the blog sites, articles submitted with AMA or MAN or freetrafficsystems ,the social networks sites, the RSS feed and the social bookmarks. (should these be the URLs of the actual posted articles or just the profiles in the case of social networks? Should I ping them all at once? Should I do it from the same computer?

Ping all the article sites, social network properties and bookmarks at once. Or right after you have created them. Ping the actual url of your post or bookmark not your account profile. You don't ping MAN(or other blog networks) blogs and you don't ping rss aggregators.

Cheers,

Livonian

[snikaclick]

Thank you so much Livonian, you answer all my questions =). I'm sorry if I confused you with the numbers. When I wrote "3." and "2." I meant point 3 and point 2 in the "strategy" I posted.

What do you think of the overall strategy, are the steps in the right order? Would you add something to this or even replace the strategy with something completely different?

And when I've done this process for my first keyword, can this be enough to get me ranked in the top 3 in google if I have a medium competition or should I do this process again and respin the original article to all of the directories and blogs under a different name (make new accounts for article directories, freetrafficsystems, link wheel?

When I'm done with the first keyword, do I go about doing the exact same for the other keywords on the same accounts I've already got or should I create new accounts on all properties for keyword #2 and then new accounts for keyword #3 etc?

Thank you very much Livonian!

[livonian]

Answer to your original question about "2." and "3." is that you can do them on the same day. The steps are in correct order except do bookmarking before submitting your feeds to rss aggregators. That's because you also get rss feed from bookmarking sites which you also have to submit.
About adding different strategies...yes you can add, if you have time and resources to build different type of links. The more you have different kind of back links the better. But it's not really necessary, the strategy we are talking about works very well. Has worked for me and for others members as well.
I wouldn't do anything completely different, though I have some additional strategies to add to these, but I haven't tested them yet, and don't know how they actually work. But I encourage to use this system. Get one system to work for you and if you do, then try to find ways to optimize it if you can. You are just wasting your time if you try to find more powerful strategy all the time, without getting any of them work for you.
You may get first position or you may not. Sometimes you may get first position without any back links at all. But when we are talking about product launches then we do the process over and over again each day. If you are talking about other niches where keywords are already established then I still think that you should continue to build back links, if you are building back links then you have to keep steady pace or you have to increase it. If you just blast once and then don't build anymore back links, this doesn't seem natural. Also for established keywords the importance of on page seo increases. You have to use keywords which google thinks are relevant to your main keyword.

Short answer to you last question would be both. Use your exciting accounts and create new ones.

The accounts you create don't really depend so much on the keywords you are trying to rank for , but on topics your promotional articles are about.

You create a network of sites about topic #1 then network of accounts about topic #2 then #3 and so on. And then you update these networks with relevant articles. Let's say you are selling computers. Then you would create a network of sites which talk about computers generally our topic #1 you can post anything you want there what is about computers. Our topic #2 is about monitors, there you submit only these of your articles which concentrate on monitors.And #3 is maybe about computer coolers, there you submit your aticles only about coolers, but not something what is maybe about computer games.

You can use the same accounts to link to your different keywords as long as the article fits to the topic your network is about. But if you can fit the right words in you can use the networks to promote any keywords.
I use Vita's internet marketing articles to target completely irrelevant niches. But all these articles are submitted to a network of sites which are highly relevant to their topic: ppc, seo, article marketing etc.

Still don't think that you just create one very targeted network and just use only this one to build back links for all of your keywords.
Google takes sites which link between them selves(your networks) as a community, if you link all your properties together you only have one big community talking about you. But you need lots of communities-big and small- talk about your website. That's why you build many networks on different topics like explained above and update them at least once a week, this way they get stronger over time. And you should also build throw-away networks, that means that you build a network link back to your page on it and never use it again. You can use the same spin article for throw-away networks you use to update your non throw-away networks.

Hope you understand, it may seem a little confusing at first, but after you read it several times you will understand. Of course you can ask additional questions as well

Livonian

[snikaclick]

Hi again!
I've been busy doing some link building the past days, I probably should pay more attention to classes haha.
Thanks for clarifying some points for me.

I have some 40 keywords I want to rank for. I have written articles for each keyword myself so they are completely unique. They fall into 6 categories basically. 1 of the categories is a "niche guide review" category and the others are similar to "computer repairs", "computer components", "monitors" etc. Most of them are published on my blog already.

So if I understand you correctly, I should make a new link wheel i.e a new set of social networks (wordpress, blogger, vox, blogspot etc) for each of my 6 categories? So one would be "computer guide reviews", another would be "computer components" etc.? And I would post the 5 or something articles I have in the "computer guide reviews" category in the proper network, say 1 article per day spun and published on all the 14 something social networks?

I guess the submission to article directories is just a 1 spun article/day to all article directories and then wait.

About the social bookmarking... Do you mean that after I've spun the same article to 14 or so social networks (as I did today) I should bookmark all of these 14 pages only using 1 of my social bookmark accounts per page? I have some 30 social bookmark accounts each with different account names now hehe. Should I use them one by one to social bookmark only 1 of the social network sites?

For example, if I made a post on wordpress.com named "How to repair your computer" I would then social bookmark it only with say delicious. And then I would go on to bookmark my "The way you should properly repair your computer" (same article as earlier but another spin version) with my mixx account and so on?

So I would social bookmark all of these social network sites the same day but they will receive no more than 1 social bookmark?

And about the RSS thing, I understand that you take the RSS if you can find it on your social networks and even the RSS from social bookmark sites. I'm wondering if the RSS feed from social bookmark sites is the general RSS for the site and so for example delicious RSS feed will contain 1000s of urls? Or is there some kind of personal RSS feed on these social bookmark sites linked to my account and so only saves the bookmarks I create myself?

Oh and btw, why are we social bookmarking, are we doing it for the backlinks? And if so, why aren't we social bookmarking with more accounts for more backlinks?

[livonian]

You understood right.

You get personal rss feed from the sites. And we bookmark for backlinks and for faster indexing. Social bookmarking sites get crawled very often. So as your articles link to your site and you bookmark your articles you are building backlinks to your backlinks to make them stronger. If you have so many different accounts, I guess it's ok, to bookmark some more. But one is enough and it is to look natural. Today with mixx, tomorrow with mister wong, the day after that digg etc. Not necessarily in this order of course It just wouldn't seem natural if you let say have 20 articles which all link to your site and then for example all these 20 articles are bookmarked in one bookmarking account at once.

[snikaclick]

Gah I'm a bit sad now
I spent countless of hours doing all of this manually and I'm still not even in the top 1000 for an easy keyword.

The backlinks aren't even seen by Market Samurai.

Only my hubpage linking to my site is shown up in yahoo site explorer. I'd thought I would get a top 5 ranking because of this.

Has anyone actually tried to do this manually and succeeded? I'm thinking maybe SENuke does this way better but someway I doubt it and I have a hard time justifying to subscribe to something for $127/month when all the hours it took me to do this manually didn't affect my ranking whatsoever.

Livonian, are you using SENuke and have you experienced any actual success with it?

[livonian]

Yes I am using Senuke and also MAN I am not doing any other promotion besides these 2 and I have ranked nr1 for keywords I have targeted. Not for all of them,but for some. I operate in launch business model, so at least it works there. Senuke seems expensive, but if I see what it does I feel frustrated just thinking that I had to this all manually.

I personally don't know anyone who is succeeded in doing this manually, but I know people succeed by building links manually with blog comments and this kind of stuff, so I'm sure someone has succeeded.. If you are not ranking in the top 1000 maybe you should look into your on-page SEO. Or maybe your keyword isn't so easy to rank for as you thought it would. Plus doing this needs time. You don't get 1st rank when you do only one cycle, though you might sometimes. For product launch I feel comfortable if I have at least week and I do 2 cycles a day. One to update my existing network and I also create one new one.

Also remember that it takes time for your back links start showing in yahoo explorer and market samurai, which I believe uses yahoo explorer to get its data. And even if they start showing not all back links will be shown, not even nearly. But that doesn't mean that they don't count.

Vita can probably help you more. Though I tried to give exactly what I have learned and what has worked out for me, maybe I got something wrong or there's something that can be done better.

Anyway I have asked Vita to come and check out this thread, so let's wait and see what he thinks of it.

P.S. Snikaclick, you wrote 40 articles all by yourself? Damn, if I could just do that Maybe you don't quite understand what valuable asset you are possessing, if you can't afford SEnuke, maybe you could do some article writing and collect money. Just an idea.

[Vita_Vee]

WOW Livonian thanks a lot for your very helpful and detailed replies. You did much better than what I could have done myself

Snikaclick one of the members here followed this method manually, exactly as I described it in the other thread and he got #1 and #2 rankings for his keywords.

But he did this everydays. One day of promotion is not enough (that's weird that you're not in the top 1000 though).

Did you check your privacy settings in wordpress? Maybe your blog settings doesn't allow search engines to index it.

Please check this video I recorded a few months ago about this problem:

http://vitavee.com/forums/thread-181.html

Once again thanks a lot Livonian for your help and great replies! I agree with you, Snikaclick if you can write so many articles you should definitely sell your services. Many people are in the need of articles and don't have either the time or the knowledge to write them.

Don't hesitate to offer your services in the new forum section here:
http://vitavee.com/forums/forum-38.html

VV

[snikaclick]

thanks for the advice guys and it's not a problem with wordpress settings since the site Ymy money page) is actually indexed. However, only 1 out of 15 or so social networks I made and linked in a link wheel is indexed.

I can't understand this, they are social networks on high authority sites such as blogspot, livejournal, vox, blogger etc.

Aren't these supposed to get indexed very fast? I made these sites 1 week ago and I have social bookmarked them, submitted the rss feed and pinged them and still they aren't indexed.

[fenix]

snikaclick any news man? i am trying to figure it out myself.

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[livonian]

Snickaclick and Fenix, what do you mean by getting indexed. Did you check if your properties are ranking on google, or did you use yahoo explorer? If you used yahoo explorer then showing up there isn't a sign of the link page getting indexed. It's just a sign that yahoo is decided that the page fits their criteria to be shown on their explorer. What counts is that google puts your property where your link is into their index. To check this you take a block of your article's text and search it in google between quotes.

If you start doing some more promotions you will soon see that webpages with 0 backlinks in yahoo explorer can outrank pages which have lots of links in yahoo explorer.