Review on the new John Stalvey Infinite Leverage System

[Simple2Profit]

I had the opportunity to get in on the beta of the new John Stalvey system from the team at Infinite Leverage. Let me say that I have been doing websites for 16 years and have read most of the 'get rich' books and courses. This system is a slick implementation of all of that knowledge wrapped up in a nice package with a bow.

The entire system is a funnel that is setup to be completely automated. The ONLY thing you need to do is send traffic, and there's tons of training in the backoffice showing many ways to do this. I will try to explain the funnel process, but it's really better if you just goto http://Simple2Profit.com and put in an email address to experience it for yourself. You will be blown away at the autoresponder system they have put in place.

Once your email is in, it walks you through a teaser on of the program and how it works, you then come to a short application where it asks a few simple questions which are setup to weed out the people who are now serious. If you don't fill out the application it triggers a new set of autoresponder emails to entice you back to the site.

After 'pre-approving' your application it brings you fully into the details of the system. You are presented with a few pages worth of videos to watch through that explain in great detail, how the business works, what the product is, how the automated system works for you, and the best part, how you get paid! There's testimonials and a simple form to get started. The whole package is beautifully executed and professionally done.

It does not stop there. If you put your phone number on the application, after about a week if you still have not signed up you will get voicemails from John Stalvey or one of his staff members. They will call and answer questions on your behalf. If the person happens to be your lead, you will still get tracked and credited for any sales that take place.Your leads will get invited to webinars and confrence calls where they can call in, ask questions, and learn more about the amazing opportunity being presented. All of this happen automatically without your involvement.

Again all you need to do is get people in the door...

Can you send a postcard?
Can you place a classified ad?
Can you post to facebook or craigslist?

YOU can run this system successfully. Do you have a true expertise with traffic or an internet marketing skill? I will step back and let you work your magic with this.

Even if you have no interest in what they're selling you OWE IT to yourself to put in an email address in the form at Simple2Profit.com and watch the autoresponders, and listen in on one of the calls to see how they sell it. These guys are good. Perhaps some of the best internet marketers of the moment. Get in on this while it's still new!

http://Simple2Profit.com

[Ron Boyd]

Welcome to the forum,

A very informative review I researched a little further can you tell me is simple2profit your front end to this system and are you looking via this review here to recruit signups to your own personal funnel.

If this is the case which I suspect it is perhaps you would like to share with us some of your statistics to further expand on your initial review.

Also perhaps you would like to take a look around the forum and share some of your 16 years of online experience where appropriate.

We like to get to know people a little before we start taking their advice.

Regards Ron

[Simple2Profit]

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the warm welcome to your forum and I appreciate you not immediately reaching for the ban hammer. I did not intend to do a driveby on your members here, I intend to provide them with some value in my posts. Since I have seen and took action on most of the internet marketing methods out there I feel as if I can give a unique perspective on what's a legitimate operation, and this is one.

I can come clean and tell you that my affiliate link is indeed in the link above, however, this is by design. You see, without any affiliate link the system does not work. John Stalvey created the system so there would be no LEAKS. As an affiliate marketer and webmaster, nothing makes me more angry than if i spend the time to promote an affiliate program only to find that there is a leak in the sales process that potentially makes me lose out on a commission.

With this system there are no leaks and the email address is key to linking that user to your account after they've gone through your capture page.

I will absolutely be back and intend to share my internet marketing knowledge with the other members here. Thanks for taking me in as a new friend.

If anyone else here has used the John Stalvey Infinite Leverage System, please msg me or post here and lets share results.

[Ron Boyd]

Thanks for coming back to address the points I asked.

Just for clarity though I am merely a Moderator here as the Forum belongs to Vita as a way of paying him back several of us offered to help moderate the forum and he kindly entrusted us with this power.

We have, of late due to increased popularity, become a target for some spam posters and as such we have increased our vigilance.

I am glad that in your case you have taken care to make a useful and positive review and posted it in the correct section. As opposed to the one liner and an affiliate link that seem to be the latest craze.

I am also glad that you intend to come back and avail us of your experience. There is a varied range of experience amongst the members here and as such many would, I'm sure benefit from your knowledge.

If you be so kind as to keep any of your affiliated recommendations to this section and in a similar fashion to your initial post whilst we get to know you a little better that would be most appreciated.

Regards Ron

[Jack]

Ok I know I'm dense.

You described the method that they use to hammer you until you buy whatever system it is they're selling. I didn't see a review of any product unless that is the product.

The auto responder series, the phone calls to home, etc. Is that what this product is? Does it show you how to do that?

Or can you explain exactly what the product is and what it does? I know I'm dense because I totally missed it on this one.

Jack

[Simple2Profit]

Just means your paying attention. The capture page is intentionally vague. It's all part of the system and it makes a lot of sense once you go through the funnel. I encourage you to play along and fill out the app to see how it unfolds.

If your really impatient, the physical product that it sells pays out a $100 commission per sale plus residuals and you would be selling something even YOUR MOM would be proud of and actually understand it's value and scarcity.

[Jack]

Hmm, well I believe the intention of this section is to provide the other members with a valuable review of a product so that the other members can make an informed decision on whether or not they should buy the product.

Can you offer any information on what the product is, what it does, and how you, as a beta tester have profited from it?

[Simple2Profit]

OK, i'll spill the beans so you don't have to click through... at the end of the system you are presented an opportunity to purchase gold and silver coins and the ability to make commissions whenever someone else buys gold and silver coins through you. This is brand new..

while it's not presented an an investment opportunity, if you open a newspaper, you will see that having some gold and silver, isn't really a bad idea right about now (if your living here with me in the usa)...

I don't think attachments are working, but here is the silver product, I will post the gold coins later:
http://Simple2Profit.com/theproduct.jpg

[Jack]

Ah, Ok

So is this a system that shows you the best method for promoting the gold and silver? Does it show you how to set up a site, how to get traffic to it? In what way does it teach you how to sell the gold and silver?

Most importantly; How much does it cost?

[Simple2Profit]

There's not enough room in this textbox nor do I have energy to describe the pricing and commission structure here. You really need to watch the videos on the site linked above where EVERYTHING is explained in crystal clear detail.

This is not an INFORMATIONAL product. This is a fully operational system that you are basically renting to do what normally takes a team of web programmers to setup.

The basic gist of it is you would have to pay about $109 a month for the silver coin, and about $50 a month for the ILS Funnel system which includes everything I mentioned above. There's a small setup fee, but you get: the site, capture pages, hosting, email blasting, auto responders, a telemarketing and voicemail blast system, daily webinars and conf calls to invite prospects to, access to co-op campaigns such as postcard blasts, magazine ads and dropcards, and lots more being added daily.

All you need to do is advertise the url they give you and it does the entire coin selling process for you. This has yet to be saturated, it's brand new and you can get in at the beginning and before the gold price soars and these coins are impossible to get.

http://Simple2Profit.com

[Infinity]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds just like a form of multi-level marketing (MLM) pyramid to me...

You have to buy coins yourself, then you need other people to buy coins through you in order to make money...

I didn't sign up or go through it, so correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jack]

Yeah, I guess I should have looked earlier but I found that same first post all over the internet!

[livonian]

It is a mlm.

Short question is: would people jump on this kind of thing if there wasn't a promise to make a lot of money. Probably not and that's why this kind of business model won't work for people.

It makes people money, but the most money gets of course the creator then "mlm gurus"(people who started looking for ways to make money earlier and have had time to build huge lists) and then there are "little guys" who religiously take part of the conference calls or what ever they are doing, but all it actually does is waste their time and stop them learning how Internet really works.

I don't want to bash, but I have some experience with these type of things and there's not much good to say about them.

First of all this first post is probably from the back office where there are some templates. The whole system is based on people's creed, they make a payment in hope they will make much more back, but they make money if they find other creed people who pay money in hope to make more. Where's the value...marketing system...all duplicate content, people get affiliate links with their id's but the destination page is the same, it's like trying to rank your hoplink on Google.

There other ways of driving traffic besides SEO, of course there is, but instead you could drive it to your own squeeze page. Autoresponder costs $19 a month, shared hosting $3.95
A landing page can be easily made with a html editor or there are a ton of free templates. Why would I pay $150?

I could go own pages why these type of systems are pointless but shortly:

In mlm everything happens like in the digital products' business like we know it, there are bunch of "gurus" putting up these systems, then launching it, others mail for them. Then the launch gets over and the product "dies", so they start building another system like this but in the meanwhile they promote other guru's system and make some fancy commissons. I mail for you, you mail for me. Thing is that these mlm guys probably make even more than those doing high-ticket product launches, because almost all these "products" require recurring payments and there are a lot more newbies who will jump on anything as long as you ensure them that all they have to do is join. Some gurus in product launch business model don't offer much value instead they offer rehashed information, but these guys are much worse, they don't offer almost any value, maybe some credits to traffic exchanges and a list of classified ad sites and I think there's no money back guarantee either.

So I am almost pretty sure it's a waste of time unless you want to make some money off of newbies.

But to give it a fair shot I put one of my crap e-mail address into the system (I'm pretty sure they are going to sell it) and see what this is all about. I will reply back soon with my findings.

Livonian

[Jack]

Excellent insight Livonian!

I'm glad this post made it past the "ban hammer" as he put it. This gives us a chance to learn about this stuff.

Jack

[livonian]

Ok, not much to add, some guy recording himself from a mirror...

You get pre-approved by putting dots into different application fields(what a surprise)

Promise of automation by ready made squeeze page and e-mail follow ups, training videos, basically all the usual stuff in online mlm.

To be fair I said they probably don't offer a money back guarantee, but this one offers a 10-day money back guarantee, maybe there were some other options,but as I didn't want to waste too much of my time I didn't search for them, but the offer I got represented asked me $495 for the stuff you can see on the snapshot below.

http://imm.io/vgL

With 10 days I wouldn't even get my package delivered to me.

In my opinion, a true newbie trap. I would be very pleased if someone can prove me wrong

[CoolyKid]

Hi Livonian,

Very insightful posts and I doubt that anybody can prove you wrong.

I cannot comment on the online MLM schemes, but in my past corporate life I was at one stage the CFO for a multinational MLM (or direct selling company as they were known then) company in Oz and I can tell you that the company did very nicely as did the members at the top of the pyramid and forget the rest.

As you stated, it really relies on greed and selling dreams!

I also noticed that the pre-sales post had been posted to a number of other forums, at least one of which appears to have since removed the post!

Look forward to having the Moderators area in place to discuss these situations!

[Jack]

I suppose it would be prudent to first search the internet when we get posts like these. It would allow us one way at least to tell if it is spam or not.

That said, I'm glad we got this post and were able to have this discussion about it. At least I learned something here.

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(05-17-2010 01:58 AM)livonian Wrote:  The offer I got represented asked me $495 for the stuff you can see on the snapshot below.

http://imm.io/vgL

LOL My Mother would think I was nuts! I could picture myself carrying around that case trying to sell to people. LOL I would feel like a vacuum cleaner salesman!

[Simple2Profit]

Good points all around, this turned out to be a great thread!

All of the pricing info posted looks accurate. The coin only takes ~5 days to arrive. You can actually just buy coins if you wanted to without the startup fees or recruiting involved. I did the research and their prices are fair and in most cases cheaper compared to other internet retailers of gold and silver coins of the same type.

It's an MLM, but at the end of the day, you are not stuck with cases of disgusting juice, pills that expire, or products that have $0 value. Worse case, you end up with a few ounces of gold and silver which can buy you food in any country around the world.

If you can drive traffic and by the sounds of it, you guys can. Then this could be interesting to you. If you are a newbie and not willing to put in the time to make this work, then you will struggle and likely do this for a while get bored and frustrated from no sales and move on to something else.

Next time you are at a dinner party, pull out a $1400 1oz gold coin and see if anyone there is interested in how THEY could get one. You don't even have to do any selling, people's curiosity takes over and they will pry the information out of you. I have been in this situation so many times and i just smile, because it's so effortless to promote this product.

But when you combine an awesome product with an automated selling system like this so even the average joe can get involved. It opens the door to more people who are not as internet savvy.

You could get started tonight, and order a postcard package. It basically costs $297 to get started with a 500 postcard run. They will handle EVERYTHING from printing the card, to buying the address list, to licking the stamp and putting it in the mailbox. You just sit back and watch the applications to start coming in. It's requires no knowledge of anything techy and produces results. Postcards work, but that is a WHOLE different thread..

It sounds like you guys are on top of your game. I appreciate you taking the time to review the site and give your opinions on the program!

[Silverline]

I hope this isn't to far off the trail of this post... After getting in a well known MLM in the mid 90's and not having success I've avoided them for about 12 years.

Instead I started investing in the futures and options market, specifically in precious metals. I have recognized the importance of collecting real and valuable assets in this depressed market. The only problem is this method is too risky and most can not afford it.

I truly enjoy helping others succeed financially, so I formed a company called Silverline Market Corporation. This company was set up as an MLM, but not for anyone to get super rich, but to collect assets. After running this company for 2 1/2 years I found the company, the one John Stalvey is part of, refreshingly different. I don't know as much as most of you about internet marketing systems, like John Stalvey's system, but I know that the company this system is attached to is good. I merged my Silverline company with them, because I believe they have even more to offer.

I am part of the John Stalvey funnel system though and I simply follow the training they offer to a T, with some success. I've been part of this system now since the beginning of March 2010 and my team of silver and gold marketers has grown to over 100, but I don't believe for a moment that everyone can build up a full time business. Some people lack the discipline and the confidence that is necessary, but everyone could benefit from owning more silver and gold.

This is a one of a kind MLM where you can join and waive the $495 business cost, before mentioned by making 5 sales and the $100 per month for an asset that is selling all over the internet for $129-$219 ( http://www.govmint.com/LP-2009presalesil...d=GAFF836F ) is a good price for something I believe should take the place of most peoples 401K (my opinion only). They also offer a 30 day money back guarantee.

I don't know how the John Stalvey system is working for Simple2profits and everyone else, but it is working for my team.

Living for the day!
Matt - Silverline Team

[Simple2Profit]

So my little forum\blog experiment yesterday was a success. Perhaps this can educate someone out there on how to easily drive traffic to whatever they are promoting. The truth is, anyone can do what I am doing if they put in the time and you can twist this method to promote your own products.

I don't consider this blackhat, because I did read the rules and posted something of value in the correct section on every forum. It was my first post on most forums though, so lets call it greyhat. I took a brand new product that was recently released (John Stalvey Infinite Leverage System ILS Live 15kProfits) and I wrote an honest review about it. There was no copy involved, I wrote that review yesterday and posted it on a few forums, blogs, and other social media sites (vox, digg, stumbleupon, blogger, twitter, etc, etc). I created videos with the same keywords and uploaded them to all of the video sharing sites. I think some people call it linkwheels, but I just call it utilizing web 2.0 to the fullest.

In a few hours, thousands of people are reading my threads, blogs, and watching my videos. Hundreds are clicking through to the capture page, and 10's are filling out the forms and watching the videos within. I now rank in google in several positions, whenever someone types in 'john stalvey' or '15kprofits' or anything with the 'Infinite Leverage system' (ILS Live) and' review'.

So now people who google the name of the product that SOME OTHER affiliate is promoting to them, they will likely come across my links and added value of the review and there's a good chance I could get the sale. This method works great for clickbank products or anything where a lot of people are going to be promoting the same thing.

All in all it was a good day! I got 2 sales right off the bat, so that's an instant $200 in my pocket, We'll see if more trickle in over time. Plus, I am going to take those two people and train them to do exactly what I'm doing so our team will dominate. It is in my best interest to help them, because their sales are also putting good $ in my pocket, and I am getting paid on every coin sold, every month, down the foodchain.

While some of you may have a bad taste in your mouth from the term MLM, in this one there is really no loser. As I said, wost case scenario you end up with a few ounces of gold and silver, and if you were paying attention, you most certainly learned a thing or two from the web developers and speakers on our team. This MLM just turned 1 year old, and at the last conf they told us there was less than 10,000 members still. So you are basically getting in at the top if you were to join now. Gold and Silver are not going out of style any time soon, lol! This gravy train is still at the station, waiting for you top hop aboard!

Hands down, this forum provided the greatest value and feedback and is likely to become the authority in the serps for a john stalvey review. I don't think any of you moderators will sign up yet, but that's ok as I actually learned a lot from posting here and learning why you guys avoid programs like this. If you were to signup, we should def change all of the links around here to your aff id. I'm likely to stick around and contribute more to your forum since you have yet to ban me... (thanks Ron!) No blatant ads, I promise, just constructive IM talk about what's working today!

BTW, I just looked at the main product you are promoting on http://vitavee.com/

I am intrigued! It looks like this can be even more helpful for me to drive traffic to my funnels. I will definitely spend some time later watching the videos. I am dieing to see what's locked away in the private section of these forums!

Cheers!